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Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby GalanDun » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:46 am

By these fucks in the regressive left. We used to have a rule about this where the first person to make a Hitler or Nazi comparison without the other person goose-stepping and heiling automatically lost the argument. I've spent half my life fighting against the right-wingers who were trying to demonize gaming, Liberals and anything new. I've supported equal rights for all for as long as I've been alive and opposed discrimination in every form. Then the left takes over the cultural zeitgheist and starts doing the same thing the regressive right did and I'm like "wait just a fucking minute, no. I'm not going to let you motherfuckers come in and undo everything I've been trying to accomplish. You're not gonna demonize me for my principles. You're exactly the same as Jack Thompson and George W. Bush and I'm not going to stand by while you try and ruin the country I live in and the internet I grew up on and the things I love." And for saying that I get called traitor, Nazi-sympathizer, neo-Nazi, straight white cis male misogynistic oppressive shitlord. Fuck off. I didn't do anything to deserve your fucking hate, I do my damndest to be the bigger man and boy oh fucking boy is that hard when people are doing there best to attack you and not your arguments. All I ever get is claims and blocks and name-callings, nobody ever argues honestly and nobody believes me when I say I'm willing to change my mind if they make a good argument. Because it's not like I haven't done that. Anyone who really knows me knows I don't like to remain in the wrong if I'm wrong. I like the truth above all else, and when people start lying that's what sets me off. And that's all these people do is lie. I don't know what I expected, but whatever. I long ago acknowledged that my quest for the truth wouldn't make me a ton of friends, but sometimes it just aggravates me when people are presented with 100% objective truth and they dismiss it.
I don't get it, the mainstream right never got this stupid even when W. was in office, but as soon as Obama was elected the left started going full retard even though he was exactly the same as George Jr.
These days I'm just fucking done. What'd the Democrats want in the 90's and throughout the Bush administration? They wanted tighter border control and a fucking wall across the Mexican border. You couldn't find a person more anti-illegal immigration than a democrat during the Bush administration. Now? They've changed their fucking tune so hard they're playing a different song entirely. It happened the first time Trump recommended a wall, so they could distance themselvez from him. As a moral objectivist, this infuriates me. Your principles may not align with mine but don't change your principles just to distance yourself from someone you don't like. Last time I checked, Trump breathes air and eats food, doesn't he? I know that sharing an opinion with an idiot isn't that great of a feeling but I'm not about to change my opinion on meritocracy and equal-rights just because a bunch of marxists claim they're also in favor of those things.
And then people give me shit for promoting The Republic of Kekistan because it has origins from 4Chan. In case these idiots didn't know, America has a proud tradition of appropriating things created by opposition parties to mock us as symbols of national pride. And besides, since when was 4Chan a legitimately bad place? It's the place all the cool memes came from back in the day and last I checked they were a lot more racially and culturally-diverse than you all-white circlejerkers telling me, an American Indian that I'm opressing people with my fucking existence. Piss off, your ancestors hunted down and killed mine and the ones they didn't kill, they mistreated to shit. Fuck off with this historical oppression bullshit because a guy like me, who can trace his ancestry back to full-blooded indians and the god-damn Irish in only a couple generations can beat you in the fucking oppression olympics any day of the week. Even then, I don't like to play that game because it relies on identity politics and not argumentation. Fuck that. Fuck these identitarians on both sides of the aisle trying to take over evrrything. Fuck Anita Sarkeesian, fuck Richard Spencer, fuck Bell Hooks, fuck Jared Taylor, fuck David Duke, fuck them all. You want to tell me they're not the same? Change the pronouns in their statements, they're literally making the same arguments with different targets. Stop with this "no bad tactics only bad targets" bullshit. That's not how principles work, either they apply universally or they don't apply at all. There are certain things you don't do but no matter who it is, if the person is wrong you can't just hold back because they're a certain person. If we did that we might as well be living in a fucking monarchy. Nobody can be above criticism in a truly free society.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby kingfrog » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:04 am

i don't get why americans went to war against nazis but some of them fly the nazis flag with pride but they say they love the country
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Hayabusa » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:09 am

so whats your point?
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby GalanDun » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:35 am

Hayabusa wrote:so whats your point?

Horseshoe theory is real and these motherfuckers prove it. Both sides attack true liberals, both sides discriminate, both sides pretend they're better and both sides have their own identitarians and identity politics.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Berzerk » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 am

Both parties have always been one and the same keep power at all costs and bigger government at one time they may have been about the people but today it is about keeping power at all cost.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby rodion » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:03 am

kingfrog wrote:i don't get why americans went to war against nazis but some of them fly the nazis flag with pride but they say they love the country


Well, Nazis did help put an American flag on the Moon.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby EarthwormJames » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:08 pm

Yeah I know. My grandfather died fighting Nazis so the criticism is rather ridiculous. Some interesting historical confusion going on. First off, the right or conservative history of America isn't what the left thinks it is. The Jim Crow south were progressive Democrats. Conservative Republicans before WWII fought those progressives for civil rights for blacks.

Further both parties were heavily religious back then, progressives actually a little more so than conservatives.

Now here's where the real confusion come in. Hitler and the fascists hated classical liberalism, basically individual rights and free market capitalism. Conservative Republicans then and now tend to lean more in that direction than liberal Democrats, who lean more towards collectivism and socialism.

There were many fans of fascism in America before WWII, but they were almost exclusively on the left, towards the collectivism socialist mindset. Google Father Coughlin.

So the left is constantly looking for Nazis on the right, but it never seems to happen. Because they don't understand the nature and history of the conservative right in the US. Even in Germany Hitler was considered a populist, though their definitions of left and right were dramatically different than ours. Nazis were collectivist, occultist race based socialists.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Biggsy666 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:36 pm

kingfrog wrote:i don't get why americans went to war against nazis but some of them fly the nazis flag with pride but they say they love the country


Its not so much the country (Germany) they are supporting as the idealism that it represents for the far right. So they can still be loyal loving Americans as its not about countrys, its about mostly about race for these people.

There are some who accept the flag as a notion of an ideal of National Socialism which was never supposed to be about the things the Nazis warped it into to. To love your counrty and always strive to improve it and the lives of the people in it is not a bad idea in itself, allowing for some democracy, freedoms and even some immigration would all be fine within this structure to some extent as all of these things benefit the Nation. The state ownership of all major industries and self substaining initiatives may seem harsh but were proved in the early days of Nazi leadership to work well but then the true face of the Nazi party took hold and National Socialism was put aside. These people are often refered to as Nazis but are not.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby ZX81v2 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:22 pm

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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby CBThatGuy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Unfortunately science has proven that the team mentality is hard-wired into the human brain. It gives a person a sense of well being to be able to identify themselves as part of a group that they belong to, and those who are outside of that group are looked down upon. It can be very difficult to overcome that mentality.

Essentially all conflicts in human history come down to the "us vs. them" struggle spiraling out of control when one group has something the other group wants.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby VoodooVincent » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:57 pm

I've been called a "Russian Bot" & "Nazi" multiple times. If you support Trump, you're a "Nazi" to them, which makes it all the more hilarious that the side that demonized police officers the last few years & the side that thinks Trump is Hitler reincarnated wants Trump's government to disarm the public of their 2nd Amendment so that police officers & Trump's military are the only people with firearms. :roll:

Liberals are kinda stupid in that way. Scratch that, they're stupid in many ways.

I agree that once Obama became elected, the identity politics bullshit started. It didn't get truly awful until his second term, however. I disliked George W. Bush, argued with my grandmother at the dinner table often about him as she was a big supporter, and I initially liked what Obama had to say when he ran against Crooked Hillary. But just look at the Democratic Party before him & after him. Look at the youth of the party on college campuses. They can't handle conservative speakers, they ostracize conservative students, they're banning classic books that they find offensive, etc. -- they're f'ing awful.

I never, ever thought I'd be a conservative. I was the kid that listened to all of the punk rock bands that hated Republicans (NOFX, Anti-Flag being a few of them). I even went to a Code Pink protest as a teenager. The Democratic Party of today, however, is not the Democratic Party that I grew up with. Instead of celebrating avoiding war, they're criticizing Trump for trying to work things out with China & Russia. They've joined alongside the likes of Bush, McCain, Frum, Kristol, and other neoconservatives that championed the war in Iraq that decimated the country, killed many of their citizens, many of our soldiers, then created the climate where ISIS could once thrive, and where Iran could gain a more strategic foothold in the Middle East beyond their borders.

Honestly, I'm surprised there are still so many Democrats when you have certified idiots like Pelosi, Waters, Ellison, Schumer, Schiff, etc., as the voices of their kooky party.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Sarblade » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:30 pm

USA is weird for us (EU/IT)

Here most of us see american parties as "right" and "center right". I am a leftists and whenever I see someone getting called "libtard" or "leftist commie" in the USA, I see absolutely NO leftists ideal in him/her.
All I see are rightists with few leftists rethoric pushed to the extreme just to make them feel at ease with the world correctness. They even act as rightists.

I hope my english was clear enough to not be a cause for misunderstandings. I am not trying to attack anyone, it's just that I find it amusing (and weird).
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Gamerone » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:56 pm

Everybody has to right to live on this earth as anybody else. If they don't like it they can kiss it, where the sun don't shine. That's how I feel about a situation like this.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby VoodooVincent » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:22 pm

Sarblade wrote:USA is weird for us (EU/IT)

Here most of us see american parties as "right" and "center right". I am a leftists and whenever I see someone getting called "libtard" or "leftist commie" in the USA, I see absolutely NO leftists ideal in him/her.
All I see are rightists with few leftists rethoric pushed to the extreme just to make them feel at ease with the world correctness. They even act as rightists.

I hope my english was clear enough to not be a cause for misunderstandings. I am not trying to attack anyone, it's just that I find it amusing (and weird).


No wonder Europe is an absolute sh*t show.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby CBThatGuy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:03 pm

Sarblade wrote:USA is weird for us (EU/IT)

It's not just you. American politics and politically involved people are just as strange to most Americans as well. Most people just want to go about their lives with as little hasstle and burocracy as possible, and have no desire to shove their ideals down the throats of others.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby GalanDun » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:51 pm

VoodooVincent wrote:I've been called a "Russian Bot" & "Nazi" multiple times. If you support Trump, you're a "Nazi" to them, which makes it all the more hilarious that the side that demonized police officers the last few years & the side that thinks Trump is Hitler reincarnated wants Trump's government to disarm the public of their 2nd Amendment so that police officers & Trump's military are the only people with firearms. :roll:

Liberals are kinda stupid in that way. Scratch that, they're stupid in many ways.

I agree that once Obama became elected, the identity politics bullshit started. It didn't get truly awful until his second term, however. I disliked George W. Bush, argued with my grandmother at the dinner table often about him as she was a big supporter, and I initially liked what Obama had to say when he ran against Crooked Hillary. But just look at the Democratic Party before him & after him. Look at the youth of the party on college campuses. They can't handle conservative speakers, they ostracize conservative students, they're banning classic books that they find offensive, etc. -- they're f'ing awful.

I never, ever thought I'd be a conservative. I was the kid that listened to all of the punk rock bands that hated Republicans (NOFX, Anti-Flag being a few of them). I even went to a Code Pink protest as a teenager. The Democratic Party of today, however, is not the Democratic Party that I grew up with. Instead of celebrating avoiding war, they're criticizing Trump for trying to work things out with China & Russia. They've joined alongside the likes of Bush, McCain, Frum, Kristol, and other neoconservatives that championed the war in Iraq that decimated the country, killed many of their citizens, many of our soldiers, then created the climate where ISIS could once thrive, and where Iran could gain a more strategic foothold in the Middle East beyond their borders.

Honestly, I'm surprised there are still so many Democrats when you have certified idiots like Pelosi, Waters, Ellison, Schumer, Schiff, etc., as the voices of their kooky party.

I like how the rest of the wrold says that America is "so skewed to the right centrism seems like communism" but in my experience we're actually skewed so far left AND right that any form of non-radical behavior is absolute haram. Never mind that the world has taken a massive left-wing skewing over the last forty years.

The Democrats of today are like the Democrats of the Jim Crow era. They're racist regressives in favor of segregation and that sickens me to my core.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby Biggsy666 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:07 pm

VoodooVincent wrote:No wonder Europe is an absolute sh*t show.


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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby VoodooVincent » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:08 pm

GalanDun wrote:I like how the rest of the wrold says that America is "so skewed to the right centrism seems like communism" but in my experience we're actually skewed so far left AND right that any form of non-radical behavior is absolute haram. Never mind that the world has taken a massive left-wing skewing over the last forty years.

The Democrats of today are like the Democrats of the Jim Crow era. They're racist regressives in favor of segregation and that sickens me to my core.


Exactly. When did we become more divided as a nation? When the left started pushing identity politics. When you put everyone in their own little group/faction based on race, gender/gender identity, religion, etc., you're going to end up with them warring against one another. And when you let everyone else have their own little groups, pitting groups against the "evil white male patriarchy," you're going to have whites wanting their own special little identity group, too. Who would think that dividing people into groups creates division? :roll: Shocker!
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby victim2077 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:42 pm

It's pretty much same deal everywhere. Both sides want to fuck you as much as they can.
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Re: Sick of being called a Nazi

Postby wakinafuf » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Nazi, a name i get everyday by a bunch of peoples and even my own colleagues because of my unorthodox methods. I've been called a supreme nazi by a local jew community in paris because i arrested a couple of jew chavs who were assaulting random people passing by and tagging racist stuffs against muslims on walls. (and sadly we got to release those two mofos to avoid a jewish riot...) Since the time i'm being called that, it doesn't even touch me anymore. i'm just trying to do my job like it's supposed to be. i don't give a fuck bout the ethnicity or the origin of someone. if you're part of the human scums (drug dealers, crackheads, rapists, child molesters or "terrorist") i will just kick your ass and arrest you like i should. i even got to arrest some antifas who were planning to mob against a single guy they deemed a nazi.....

being labelled a nazi or even an antisemit is the supreme argument in any dialogue when some retards has not enough brain to tell you reasoned things. sadly in france, the antisemit label can even get you to the worst of jails for a long time. and getting that label is really easy, you just have to boycott nazisrael or just defend palestinians. or just make a silly joke on the jews, even if no evil is intended. we have this comic guy here called Dieudonné M'balla M'balla, who used to have a jewish partner and got separated because of latent jewish communautarism. then he continued his career as a solo guy with the same tone of hard humor on everykind of peoples. he's been deemed a fuckin nazi nigger and antisemit by the jewish community, then the medias took the role of accusers and even politics threw rocks at him. after several of harassement even from the police (cops who were surely pressured to do that kind of dirty work), dieudonné can't even do any show anymore. well excepted in belgium and switzerland where people still have humor. if he wanna work in france, he's forced to do his shows in small comittees in his own tourbus.... despite that, you have fuckin rabbies supporting him and some other minor jew personalities with him.

from what i heared,progressives have fuckin rotten Canada, they're doing the same to the states, we're also getting the same shit in france. the fuckin regression of the western world. or would it be its own collapsing ?

one sure thing is : if i was truely a nazi, i'd kill people on the spot for being as dumb as they are. and sometime deathcamps for idiots could not be such a bad idea, when i see the legions of retards we have nowadays.... but nah we can't do that, cause we'd be monsters not any better than Mao Zedong and his cultural revolution.
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